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In this new kind of interview show, Randy Cohen talks to guests about a person, a place, and a thing they feel strongly about. The result: some great talkers tell stories they never have before. Visit PersonPlaceThing.org.

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Oct 1, 2017

When he was mayor of New York, from 1978 to 1989, I’d often see him around town – in a Chinese restaurant, at the movies - where he was happy (or at least willing) to talk to us ordinary New Yorkers. The city was his home, not someplace he passed through in an SUV surrounded by a phalanx of bodyguards. In this remastered version of our conversation, held not long before his death, he talked about his ambitions, his accomplishments, and – with modesty and courage – his own mortality.